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Dear AOL: I hate you

Blah. Long day.

Just got off the phone with the AOL fraud division regarding the classy bastard who stole my credit card number.

Apparently, the fraud division is a snippy person who doesn't want to answer any questions such as, "Why does AOL make it so easy on credit card thieves?"

I asked how much I had been billed for the accounts, and was told that I would have to go over my credit card statements "very closely" in order to determine that.

With a touch of a button, they ought to be able to produce this information. I mentioned this.

"Well, sir, we only store that information for 90 days," said the AOL fraud division.

"But you just told me that the account was created on March 23rd," responded the victim.

"So I did, sir. I'm sorry sir, but you will just have to read your statements to get that information."

"But you have it sitting right in front of you."

"No, sir. We only keep that information for 90 days."

Argh. I could hear her holding her hands up and nodding at the phone. I hate it when I can sense that people are gesticulating at the phone as though I'm some sort of a lunatic. These are the same people who nod at the drive-through speaker.

"YYYEEEESSSSS," they say while rocking their limp skulls back and forth on their pasty necks. "I WOULD LIKE FRIES WITH THAT."

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I also wound up having this illuminating conversation with the fraud squad (I'm not even kidding - this is pretty much the real exchange):

Me: So, this guy had to have my billing address in order to sign up using my credit card, right?

AOL: No, sir. He didn't.

Me: He didn't have to have my address? How do you verify the purchase?

AOL: What do you mean sir?

Me: I mean that, if you don't look for my address, then he could just stick the numbers in without any further information, and you'd just say, "OK."

AOL: Impossible, sir. We require the billing address to complete the transaction.

Me: But you just said you didn't!

AOL: Didn't what, sir?

Me: Need my billing address.

AOL: Sorry, sir, but I can't answer that question. Only the merchant can tell you that.

Me: Who's the merchant, then?

AOL: We are, sir.

Me: OK, then do you need the billing address to authorize the transaction?

AOL: No, sir.

Me: Then you just authorize payments based on the credit card number alone?

AOL: That is a question you would have to ask the merchant, sir.

Me: But you just said that you're the merchant!

AOL: You're breaking up, sir.

Me: It's crystal-clear on my end.

AOL: Sir? Are you still there sir?

Me: Yes. I'm here.

Me: Hello?

Me: Hello?

And so it was over.

It didn't occur to me until getting off the phone that AOL has people like this in the fraud department simply because AOL makes money on each fraudulent purchase. If I were actually provided with the sort of information that I could use to protect myself, then AOL would have a harder time getting my business.

Bastards.

Published Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:29 AM by Rory

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Jeremy said:

I'm telling everyone I know to quit AOL
October 17, 2003 6:47 AM
 

very upset person said:

I was checking my account online to see how much money I had in the bank on online banking. I was appalled when I saw I had no money in the bank because aol travelers advantage had taken out $89.99 and also the regular aol took some out also because they made a mistake also.($71.70)

It is a very upsetting coincidence that the 2 mistakes that aol made were in the span of a couple days. I did not even know what Aol travelers advantage was at the time. Because they took the money out of my account without my permission (also its ILLEGAL), The bank took out $30.00 as an overdraft fee, then they took out another $30.00 for the second aol mistake.

It really angered me how they could take the money out illegally and then have me lose $60. I lost $241.19! I had $167.00 in the bank and I wasn't expecting anyone to make any mistakes. I had enough for what I needed. I want my $60 back. Aol travelers advantage apologized and gave me my $89.99 back but told me to (fax or mail) you all so that I can get my $30.00. The regular aol gave my money back too, they also apologized. I have to mail them a letter like this too!

Why couldn't I just call? I have to go out my way to do this because you all decided to take my money. I even received a 3rd overdraft charge (another $30.00) because I was using my card to buy stuff “knowing” I had money. The bank gave me my one time only courtesy, $30.00. It would have been $90.00 that I lost. This is ridiculous.

I called Aol travelers advantage and they said that in order for them to charge us $89.99, we had to cash a check. WHAT CHECK!? I never cashed anything. I have never even received anything from aol travelers advantage in the mail. I never signed up for it! I am very upset and so are my parents.

Everytime I tried to cancel with them,they wouldn't let me and I'm not a mean person. So, I got 2 "free months". Thats what they told me last time, and I was charged because they "forgot" to post it. How could this company still be running? I even lost sleep over this stupid situation. I was on the phone with aol and aol travelors advantage for 4 hours. I had to talk to like 11 different people until I got MY money BACK. I still want the rest and I am gonna get it.

If I don't get my money, I might have to take matters in my own hands.

VERY UPSET PERSON!!!!
Richmond, Virginia
U.S.A.

February 10, 2004 2:21 PM
 

Travis said:

I just found out that some "classy bastard" created two AOL accounts using my credit card. Im going to track the rat bastard down. I didnt notice it for months in my statements - so subtle that "AOL" in the long string of gobbledy-gook of account numbers and codes and crap.

AOL was less than helpful in terms of giving me my money back. At least the reset the password so I can try to nab this crook. Its probably my brother-in-law.
April 7, 2004 5:21 AM
 

MasterMindPace said:

I feel Aol is a complete rip off.. They've over charged me countless amount of time. They've over charged my phone bill even after I had already cancel my service with the them TWO-WEEKS before my billing date.
April 16, 2004 5:02 AM
 

Noodle said:


AOL SUCK BIG DONKEY BALLS!!!

I am a friend of an AOL victim. (Who by the way does NOT use AOL.) Because of fraudulent activity on his bank account by another company, we discovered that AOL was zinging him about $60.00 per month for services he did not order. Look out for Premium service, Credit Alert and Netmarket.

Check your bank statements people. One helpful thing we found out is that if you go to your bank you can request a account activity printout. It is a more detailed statement than your regular bank statement.

It will show ID#'s, Ref#'s and 1/2 the time contact phone 3's.

Anyway, here is a possible solution to get them off your backs.

1. Close your checking account.
2. Write a letter of cancelation.
3. Send letter certified mail.

I have enclosed a copy of the letter sent on my friends behalf. Feel free to use it, tweek it to suit your needs. Hope it helps. Kick those rat basterds to the curb!



April 29, 2004


AOL Auto Vantage
P.O. Box 1038
Trumbull, CT 06611


Brad Eggleston
Vice President,

Dear Sir,

This is my formal request in writing authorizing the cancellation of my membership. The checking account numbered xxxxxxxx that AOL was debiting has been closed.

I will no longer need your services. My membership # is: xxxxxxxx. I am requesting that a letter of cancellation as well as any prorated amount be sent to the address below.

Thank you in advance for your speedy attention to this matter.

Sincerely,



Your Victim
1234 Anywhere USA
You get the idea. :D

May 1, 2004 12:25 PM
 

Lino from the caribbean said:

A couple of months ago, somebody hacked my ebay account, and started started playin with my information. One of that information was my credit card account. For some reason somone in United Kingdom started using my credit card to activate an AOL account on my name and started using it.

It's about three months now. I have cancelled that account, the bank has been understanding, but every month I have to call bank to cancel each and every bill from AOL.

I tried to contact AOL, but all they tell me, is that I Need to call the United Kingdom in order to cancel my account.

Now, I ask myself, How can it be possible for AOL to charge an account for a service provided in England when I Live in the US territory of Puerto Rico?. That's riduculous! It makes me angry to think that I need to pay for a Long Distance call and have to wait for hours (on my telephone bill) just to cancel an account that I never signed for, and that they don't even have an internet help site for this kind of fraud.

If I ever thinked of joining AOL, well, that's NEVER gonna happen.

Thank you.
May 11, 2004 12:03 PM
 

Also dinged said:

And the fraud goes on. I just charged for Auto Vantage an specifically tore up the check, knowing what it was about. I'll be filing a fraud complaint with the AG in Connecticut.
October 13, 2004 4:36 PM
 

Lorraine Hernandez said:

I had a similar encounter with AOL. I had my wallet stolen and i cxl my card with WELLS FARGO, two months later i completely cxl the account as i was doing a year abroad in college. I went back home to a funeral and found out that I owed AOL around $75 for a service IN AUGUST.
Talked to fruad division, and they couldnt give me any information BECAUSE ITS CONFIDENTIAL mind you, they used a card that had been cxl and reported stolen 8 months before. They sent me some paperwork, which had to be forwarded to me in my foreign country... needless to say, i have been trying to email it back, but they have no emails posted for anyone, unless you are a customer!!!!
Ridiculous, AOL should die
and be sued for being so willing to help slumbags use peoples stolen credit cards, please if you have any info on email adresses please email me at Lorraine_hdz@yahoo.com
any help will be appreciated
Thank you
October 20, 2005 5:24 PM
 

Annonomous said:

The account I use to debit/credit my monthly charge for AOL has been STOLEN 3 TIMES!!
The latest being 2 days ago when I checked my statement. Apparently another account was set up with my name and year of birth as a screen name!!!!!! PLEASE NO ONE EVER SIGN UP FOR AOL AND IF YOU HAVE IT NOW I WOULD CANCEL OR YOU WILL REGRET FOR NOT LISTING TO ME!!!
December 29, 2005 6:04 PM
 

SAMAN ZARANDIOON said:

THIS ALSO HAPPEND TO ME ... AND IS HAPPENDING TO A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE ... IT TOOK ME 1 HOURS TO TALK TO THEIR FRAUD DEPARTMENT ... SOMEBODY SHOULD STOP THEM ... THEY ARE MISUSING THIS POSSIBILIYT ... BY OFFERING INITIAL FREE SERVICE ... THEY STOLED MY CRDIT CARD NUMBER THAT I USED TO BUY MY LAPTOP ... I CAN TESTIMONY ABOUT THIS ... WHY DON'T THEY SEND BILL ... Dear AOL: I hate you
March 23, 2006 8:25 PM
 

mec said:

The stole $99.00 from me a couple of years ago.The FTC referred my complain to the local police and the police in Washington DC. Local Police detective said he spends a lot of time working aol fraud cases and generally gets the money back. AOL pretty much immune to prosecution because the will simply blaim the customer or claim a mistake.

It's no mistake, they work double time extracting money by deceptive means.
April 9, 2006 3:08 AM
 

Mike said:

I once was dumb enough to sign up for an aol account. This was way back in 95. After a couple of years I switched to Netzero's free internet service (which actually was free at the time). I cancelled/closed my Aol account and they stopped charging my bank account, for about three months, then began charging me again. I did not notice this for almost a year, when while going through bank statements I noticed I had been being charged.
So I called Aol' accounts dept. They told me that their computer showed I had cancelled the following year. I asked why I was continuing to be charged. They replied they could not answer my question, and that I would need to call customer support. I called customer support and they told me I would need to call accounts dept. So I next called the fraud Dept. When calling accounts dept. and customer service dept. I would wait on hold for 25-35 minutes before getting through. The fraud dept. had me on hold for over an hour before finally getting through. (Aol's busiest dept?)
Fraud told me that there "policy" states that I could only be credited back for 6 months.
I asked that my name and info be purged from their records, and they said this was impossible due too tax purposes.
The real clincher is when I have gone around telling people how Aol ripped me off, and a large percentage of people responded, "They did the same thing (or something similar) to me."
Aol is a company that operates on fraudulent activities. They also gather personal info on their customers which they then sell or share with other companies.
I am now a computer repair tech and am always warning people not to do business with Aol., more than half take my advice. I have managed to get a number of people to close their Aol accounts.
April 19, 2006 7:59 PM
 

Carol said:

About 2 years ago I tried 60 day free trial with AOL. I then went with peoplepc because I could afford it. I cancelled AOL after two weeks. Then my daughter cancelled because it was her credit card she gave when she set me up. Now after all this time, (I'm presently on Road Runner, because my husband is paying what I can't afford) They say they need my bank information so they can get the money I owe them. You are put on hold forever to talk to the fraud line. I finally talked to a lady that said she would cancel the debt and the service I never used. I'm still getting calles that I owe them money. I told their fraud line that they were who was committing fraud and I would be calling the FCC. They are still calling. Why are they allowed to committ this fraud?
June 29, 2006 12:45 AM
 

jetixo said:

The AOL fraud department never answered my call and no way I could leave a message to claim debit card fraudulent. AOL committed to this crime and somebody need to let FBI take care of it.
AOL send the bill to my new address since I moved out and closed my account in April. How AOL got this information? I was sent a notice about terminating the service and refer to their debt collecter. I called AOL's cust. service many times in April to clarify that neither I signed up or used AOL's internet service. How to get rid of AOL ? thank you.
July 22, 2006 5:04 PM
 

TrackBack said:

THE BEST OF RORY -- #6
January 8, 2004 8:03 AM
 

TrackBack said:

Been blogging for a year - Forgotten why I even started...
April 27, 2004 1:14 AM
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