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Programmer Union

The topic came to me when I was reading Mike Gunderloy's super-good blog. The link to the original entry is giving me some 404 business, so you'll just have to trust me. Ultimately, the link went back to Sam Gentile, who was the inspiration for Mike's post.

Anyway, I'm guessing that this is one of those subjects that is often thought about, and often discussed, but in my absence.

I'm not saying that anybody's obligated to wait until I'm in close proximity to begin talking about anything important, but I do want to apologize in advance if this is topic has already been beaten to death. If it has, I wasn't invited to the funeral, and so still have some questions.

Question number one would be this: Why don't we have one?

It seems like programmers are prime union meat. We totally lack job security, and we're tossed around like pogo sticks in one of those extremely dangerous (but fun) inflatable castles that arrive for any event where there might be beer, music, and really bad stand food.

There is no R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

Am I wrong here? Honestly. I don't understand why we don't have a union.

I can think of some counter points. For example, if it weren't done right, it might just encourage companies to ship as many jobs abroad as humanly possible. This would be bad for those of us who live in the states (but good for people who live in other countries and who have every right to make a living - still, though - gotta look after my own skin).

The counter point to that counter point, I think, is this: Pharmacists.

Yeah. The grumpety-wumpetykins who measure out our pills. They have a union, and that's why they're still doing what they're doing. I know - I can hear you say: "But, Rory - You can't ship pharmacist jobs abroad. It's a bad comparison."

It's true - You couldn't easily ship them abroad (not everybody wants to order their Viagra over the internet). But, you could easily just get rid of them. I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but the job of a pharmacist is basically the job of a fancy vending machine. If a bunch of tanked college students can build a box that mixes drinks, then I think we probably wouldn't have much a problem building one that measures out drugs. Sure, I'd occasionally get bladder-control medicine instead of Xanax, but we have to make these sacrifices in the name of modernization. I wouldn't want to stand in the way of the Bulldozer of Time. Would you?

Which brings us back to the question: Why don't programmers have a union? (actually, the segue was terrible, but I'm tired, so it'll have to do)

Why?

Published Monday, May 12, 2003 1:45 AM by Rory

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Rick said:

Personal opinion: Because we don't have a leader. Who wants to step infront of that bullet. The person who steps up and says "I'm starting a union" would be fired for some nothing type reason. Who wants to lead that?... Again, just my thought..
September 17, 2003 2:08 PM
 

Padraig said:

Interesting that you should mention this. My dad, (who is a lawyer) told me a couple of years ago (when I was working for a company as a programmer) that if I wanted job security, form a union. The reason is that if the company were to fire me, there would be all kinds of legal violations on their part. Now I'm in New England, (a union friendly area), so I'm not sure if this applies to other areas. I remember in 1997 talking to a headhunter, and telling him 'programming is ripe for unionization'. 'No, no', was his reply. 'There's too much money to be made'. Well, short term, he was right, long term I was right. We need standard certifications for technology areas, (so companies can't say that we "aren't qualified"), grievence procedures against employers and managers, and 40 hour weeks (or at least additional compensation if overtime is required). Oh yeah, and absolutely prohibit jobs from going overseas to India and asia (also getting rid of H1-Bs and L-1 visas). But of course, that part is a no-brainer.
September 28, 2003 10:03 PM
 

John said:

Actually, the reason there is no union is that the afl-cio hasn't sponsored any outreaches in the technology sectors. It wouldn't be hard for them to set up a conference during E3. The initiative for a union has to start with the powerhouse of unions... afl-cio and Mr. Sweeney have to take this first step. The incentive is there, it would add tens of thousands of jobs if the tech sector unionized. Video games anyone? EA has something like 10,000 employees.
February 5, 2005 10:57 PM
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