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I put up a post tonight in which I offered an "XML olive branch" to make amends for all the recent fighting around here, but it turns out that I did something pretty silly, which was to create an RSS feed of a site that already had a (much) more than adequate RDF feed.

Anyway, as much as I want to make up for all the fighting that went on during that little several day debate back there, I have to admit that I felt like snapping the olive branch in half, burning it, and dumping the ashes in McNealy's morning coffee after reading this.

Published Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:22 AM by Rory

Filed Under: Enter the Nerd

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	Davide Inglima said: Rory, please, don't spread memes that aren't true. It's Microsoft that moved an aggression to Sun by trying to contaminate Java, "extending" it with non-standard extension disregarding some standard ones (like replacing JNI with Active-X). That was a breach of contract as well. Microsoft did the best thing (in Microsoft's way) by creating .NET and technically (imho) did a good thing (not a perfect thing), but in the interest of the community all around the I.T. world, Microsoft should have gone 100% standard java, in my opinion. By the way, is it just my firebird or did you put something that tries to contact your site every few seconds? December 6, 2003 8:26 PM
	Rory said: "Rory, please, don't spread memes that aren't true." I do want to dump the ashes in McNealy's coffee. If that isn't true, then please notify the portion of my brain that believes it. My grey matter seems fairly convinced of the position. I didn't make any claims in this post aside those related to personal feelings on the matter. These things happen. It's the end of a tough week at work, a long debate on the blog, and I'm taking an emotional reaction to something. "By the way, is it just my firebird or did you put something that tries to contact your site every few seconds?" That's just the mind control plug-in. I got it straight from Microsoft's secret labs :) Actually, if you visit my site with a browser (rather than an aggregator), it tries to refresh my web cam image every ten seconds. I should turn it off as I've been pretty web cam lazy lately, but I haven't. Ideally, I'd have a system rigged that would only activate the javascript if my web cam were updating. I've been thinking about doing that for a while, but it would be a little time consuming, and there are other, cooler projects to work on. I'll get around to it - Eventually... December 6, 2003 10:01 PM
	milbertus said: While it was Microsoft's fault for extending Java in non-standard ways, Sun wasn't all that intelligent about getting Microsoft to stop doing that. First, they say that it's unfair competition for Microsoft to ship their version of the Java VM with Windows. So, Microsoft complies with the court order, and doesn't include Java with XP. Then, Sun turns around and wants Microsoft to include Java, or else no one will want to use Java, because it's not installed by default (something like that, anyway). So, with XP SP1, Microsoft installs Java, only to not install it with SP1a. I think what Rory was complaining about in this post was all of the software products that won't be available to MSDN subscribers anymore, just because of all this bickering between Sun and MS. I definitely have to agree that it's a shame that nearly a whole generation of MS products will now just go away for MSDN subscribers. That is most definitely not a good thing. December 7, 2003 7:44 AM
	chrootstrap said: Microsoft was engaged in sleazy business practices and, as a result, needed to change and for this we blame, not Microsoft, but Sun?? Microsoft twisted J++ so that it would produce Windows-only products, thus removing the cross-platform benefits of Java. The agreement Microsoft had with Sun meant those practices were illegal and Sun was right from ethical and financial perspectives to get Microsoft to cease doing this. It sounds a lot more like Microsoft is cutting support for products that no longer make them money as a push to get people to upgrade (a very normal and not necessarily bad practice Microsoft) while trying to spin it as Sun's wrongdoing. I don't think this has been put in an objective light at all. December 7, 2003 8:10 AM
	Rory said: "I don't think this has been put in an objective light at all." True - In an earlier comment, I said "I didn't make any claims in this post aside those related to personal feelings on the matter. " I didn't claim it would be objective. Nothing is on this site. Objectivity is pretty hard to come by, actually... My reaction was emotional - not rational. December 7, 2003 8:16 AM
	chrootstrap said: But, your eyes started turning green and you busted out of your clothes. I was worried you were going to jump 100 feet into the air and land on my head. ;) This is all quite amusing to me because just a couple of days ago I remarked to my wife how vilifying companies like Microsoft and MacDonalds seems so trivial when energy companies, defense contractors, and the DoD are actually commiting atrocities for profit right now. Compared to Haliburton building pipelines in Burma or the chain link fences to imprison ENTIRE TOWNS (!!!) Microsoft has religious purity: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/07/international/middleeast/07TACT.html/ex=1071378000&en=b9c5e965e018edf1&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE December 7, 2003 12:37 PM
	Davide Inglima said: Me: "Rory, please, don't spread memes that aren't true." Rory: I do want to dump the ashes in McNealy's coffee. If that isn't true, then please notify the portion of my brain that believes it. My grey matter seems fairly convinced of the position. I didn't make any claims in this post aside those related to personal feelings on the matter. Sorry Rory, you are correct about this. The past-evening-beer-hangover made another victim. Please don't kill me :( December 7, 2003 5:05 PM
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