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Why drugs? Good question, yo...

From a comment in my previous post:

I'm curious as to how you ever ended up on Anti depressants in the first place? Were you in some deep form of depression where you felt drugs were the best option? Or were you duped by all of the "take our pill and life will be bliss" ads/commercials? It sounds like the making of a good blog post. Could you describe from the beginning what lead to this?

I’ve taken a lot of flak from friends, readers, and even Aydika (who has since changed her stance) about my use of anti-depressants to deal with my head thingies.

First off, I was never “duped” by any sort of drug company advertising. If anything, I’ve been resistant to the idea of taking pills – I consider them part of a solution of last resort, but not the solution itself. I’d never expect pills on their own to do much of anything (although there is quite a bit of data to the contrary – on their own, anti-depressants can actually do a world of good for people even without counseling – but that’s not always, or often, the case). I had been seeing a shrink for nearly a year at the time I last went on meds, so it’s not like I didn’t give good old fashioned counseling a shot.

Also, I’m a skeptic. When my doctor/neurologist/whoever recommends that I take a new drug, I do my research. I typically turn down about two out of three suggestions, narrow my options down to a pool of acceptable meds, and then choose the one that seems like it will provide the most benefit with the least side effects.

For example, my neurologist wanted me to take a drug called Topamax to prevent my strange migraine blindness thing. The drug is actually an anti-seizure medication which has been approved for prevention of migraine, but the side effects are just way too potentially awful for me to even consider it. One of the most interesting things I read about Topamax was that it will make you “dumber than a box of rocks” if you don’t meet certain criteria. Since I have absolutely no interest in finding out by trial and error if I meet those criteria or not, I decided not to take the drug. Plain and simple. I’d rather go blind every now and then than get my ass kicked on Jeopardy by a box of rocks.

So, my decision to get back on anti-depressants wasn’t something I took lightly. I wasn’t even depressed at the time, actually (we’re talking late August here). The problem I was having was anxiety. I could be lounging in the sun, reading a book by my favorite author, and then get nailed by a panic attack so bad that I thought the world was going to end.

That happened to me every day. Over and over. And over.

And over again.

I was treating the panic attacks acutely with Ativan. Ativan is a benzodiazepine similar to Valium except that it has a much shorter half-life which means that I don’t have to be stupid for quite as long as I would be on Valium (benzos can temporarily blunt your intellect, although the effect is quite preferable to sitting through a panic attack that will blunt your desire to live).

Not wanting to be stupid all the time, and noticing that I had been taking benzos “acutely” for nearly two months (I don’t consider two months of straight meds to be “acute” anymore), I wanted to switch to something else. Ativan can foster physical and psychological dependencies, and I wanted to be off of it.

That’s when I decided to go back on Zoloft (depression and anxiety have their roots in the same chemical imbalances, so anti-depressants are used to treat anxiety as well), which is a drug that had worked incredibly well for me in the past. In the spring of 2000, I thought my life was over. A month after a started Zoloft, I was “me” again. It was great.

The problem with drugs like Zoloft, though, is that your body goes through changes. The brain to which I recently tried to apply Zoloft isn’t the one that received it in 2000. I’m older, probably showing some wear and tear on the neurons, under all new kinds of stress, and live a completely different life. This time, the amount of Zoloft that restored my sanity in 2000 pretty much took it from me.

In spite of this, I still think Zoloft is a good drug. I know plenty of people for whom it has provided great benefit, and I’ve had my own good experiences with it. But, it looks like I’m going to have to figure out something else because this stuff isn’t working for me anymore.

That, then, is the short version of how I wound up on meds. I could probably write a good twenty pages on my experiences with different SSRIs, with counseling and without, to describe all the events that led me back to Zoloft, but I won’t. I have a presentation to give in four hours, and I should probably be doing my usual pre-event prep.

If you have any questions about the head drugs, though, then feel free to leave ‘em.

Published Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:25 PM by Rory

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Andy said:

D@mn dude! I hope you feel better soon. I have no opinions on depression meds one way or the other I just hope whatever you try works for you so you can get your life back. Remember if you ever want to just go grab a beer or something I'm right here in town just drop me an e-mail or a call and I'll be there.
October 11, 2005 3:40 PM
 

Chris said:

Hi Rory. I read your blog mostly beacuse it cracks me up, and I keep my nose out of the personal stuff. But I wanted to drop in a line from the "great silent majority." Whoever's giving you shit for taking meds doesn't know what they're talking about. They think it's just a question of "getting it together." Their opinions are worthless.

I hope you're getting plenty of support from family and friends, but just in case you still haven't heard this enough: It's nobody's business what you're doing to stay happy and healthy but yours and your doctor's. You don't need to explain anything to anyone, ever.
October 11, 2005 4:37 PM
 

Tom Cruise said:

Dude, you don't know the history of psychology - I do! Don't take the drugs, you just need to get an audit, go see your local Scientologist!
October 11, 2005 4:39 PM
 

Aaron Jensen said:

Yes. Too many people out there think that you just need to will yourself out of your mental state. Poppy-cock. You would not tell a diabetic to will themselves out of being diabetic, or a parapalegic to will himself to walk.

The brain is an organ, just like your heart, liver, stomach, etc. It can break just like any other part of your body. Thanks heaven for modern day drugs. Without them, we would have a lot more people unable to function in society (I am married to one of them).

Keep up the good work, Rory!
October 11, 2005 4:41 PM
 

Jason Bunting said:


I have mentioned this on your blog before, but I suffer from anxiety attacks as well. I was offered the anti-depressant route as well, and after a few days of that, just knew it was not the way to go (I took Celexa, and it took away my soul).

What do I do now? Pretty much nothing. I just suffer through them. I usually get them in the middle of the night, especially when I wake up to use the water closet. I feel like death is imminent and that there is little I can do about it. After 5-20 minutes, it goes away and I go back to sleep. When they hit me during the day, I just try to breathe and realize that I am not dying (despite the fact that part of me is saying "You ARE going to die, any minute now!").

My wife used to be sympathetic to my attacks, but she feels that if I am not willing to get help for them, than I should quit complaining. We have been told by two therapists that they can help me eliminate these; I remain skeptical but hope I can one day be free of these inconveniences.

Not fun, but it is just part of life and I accept it. You don't have to take this route, but I promise it is better than the mess drugs have apparently wrought on you.

October 11, 2005 4:45 PM
 

paul said:

Side effects get ya every time.
October 11, 2005 4:48 PM
 

Derrick said:

When did you know? I have this eerie feeling that I might be a canidate, but (like someone mentioned before); I don't want to feel like I was 'duped' into it.

It sounds like a dumb question, I know. I was depressed when I was younger but never got help. Since then, I've pretty much self-medicated myself on cigarettes and alcohol. It was fine at first. A beer here or there after work with some friends to ease the day away. Recently, it's taken a plunge and I know I won't stop until it's rock bottom.

What I'm asking is, when did you know? At what point did you take the step towards meds?
October 11, 2005 5:18 PM
 

Jeremy said:

Yo dude, I suffered from Panic Disorder for a while too and I can sympathize. (For those that don't know, Panic Disorder is having panic attacks about your panic attacks... it gets funky and bad!)

Anyway, it's good to see you are going to a MD psychiatrist and not a "counselor". Medical training has its benefits. But as always, it is a good idea to make sure they know how to treat anxiety disorders (just like you'd see a cardiologist for heart problems).

For me, and I realize there is no "magic bullet", a combination of Clonazepam (Klonopin) (benzo with a long half-life) and CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) were the magic bullet. Now I am no longer needing the drugs and haven't had a panic attack in a long time. The CBT seems to do the trick (CBT is basically just forcing yourself to be rational throughout the panic attack, its hard, I know). I highly recommend CBT and to me a benzo is a benzo they all knock you on your ass and make you into a zombie, but for acutely treating a panic attack it will at least break the cycle (panic attacks seem to lead to panic attacks, especially when you get into the "what the f*ck is wrong w/ me" syndrome).

Anyway, best of luck to ya. It sucks, but always remember that it isn't the end of the world.
October 11, 2005 5:42 PM
 

Rory said:

Andy -

"Remember if you ever want to just go grab a beer or something I'm right here in town just drop me an e-mail or a call and I'll be there."

Only problem is that I seem to be allergic to beer (and other types of alcohol). There's no faster/easier way for me to get a migraine :)

Been driving me nuts, too. Aydika and I just got back from a few days in Cancun, and if you don't drink, you're screwed for evening activities.

Then there's the issue of alcohol mixing with the meds.

But, I can always use the company :)
October 11, 2005 5:51 PM
 

Rory said:

Chris -

"It's nobody's business what you're doing to stay happy and healthy but yours and your doctor's. You don't need to explain anything to anyone, ever."

I totally agree. I wrote this post because I've dealt a lot with the anti-med crowd, and wanted to speak up a little about it.

If nothing else, then to at least make people aware that a lot of us aren't just reaching for a bottle of pills every time something seems wrong in life.

What's really funny, though, is that most of the people who have given me a hard time about taking the anti-depressants are people who drink/smoke/use recreational drugs.

Odd how people miss the irony there...
October 11, 2005 5:53 PM
 

Rory said:

Mr. Cruise -

"Dude, you don't know the history of psychology - I do! Don't take the drugs, you just need to get an audit, go see your local Scientologist!"

I saw the outline of your little wiener in that horrible dance that you did in the 80s in that stupid movie where you drove that shitty Porsche.

I don't know where I'm going with this, but remember: I know what the outline of your little wiener looks like.
October 11, 2005 5:56 PM
 

Rory said:

Aaron -

"You would not tell a diabetic to will themselves out of being diabetic, or a parapalegic to will himself to walk."

Good point, yo. I'm going to steal that and use it in arguments.

"The brain is an organ, just like your heart, liver, stomach, etc. It can break just like any other part of your body."

Hey - it's just bruised or something.

Not broken :)
October 11, 2005 5:59 PM
 

Rory said:

Derrick -

"What I'm asking is, when did you know? At what point did you take the step towards meds?"

When I realized that I was completely freaked out for no reason.

That is, I have:

1) A woman who thinks I'm just the shiznit
2) A great job
3) A CooperWorks Mini Cooper S
4) An IQ of 5,000
5) Incredible artistic skills

And yet... I'm freaking out.

If I were to itemize the good things in my life against the bad things, I should *really* have a permasmile on my face. Instead, I'm getting lightheaded, nervous, and sweaty, thinking that I'm about to die because I had a cup of tea.

That's how I know/knew.

If you suspect that you might be borderline, then check this out:

http://www.allaboutdepression.com/dia_01.html

You should be looking at the section which lists the DSM IV criteria for depressive conditions.

If you qualify, then meds might work for you, but you should try counseling first.

A combination of both is typically the most effective route, but if you can get by without pills, then you should give it a shot.

Hope this helps :)
October 11, 2005 6:05 PM
 

Rory said:

Jeremy -

"For those that don't know, Panic Disorder is having panic attacks about your panic attacks... it gets funky and bad"

That's exactly right - it's cyclical.

You start to get anxious about being anxious.

"For me, and I realize there is no "magic bullet", a combination of Clonazepam (Klonopin) (benzo with a long half-life) and CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) were the magic bullet."

I just started looking into CBT, and it seems promising. It's helped me "get outside myself" on a number of occasions to view a situation more objectively - leading me away from my worst case scenario assertions.

I want to see the MD shrink before I make any final decisions, but I'm thinking that the *occasional* benzo combined with CBT might be the best solution for me...
October 11, 2005 6:11 PM
 

Derrick said:

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

This whole thing is kind of a new concept to me. My dad's the "get it together" type and my mom's the "there's nothing that talking to Jesus can't fix" type, so; as low and self centered as this is, it's comforting to hear from people who go through things like this as well.

Anyway, thank again.
October 11, 2005 6:35 PM
 

James said:

Medication worked for me. I started suffering anxiety and panic attacks after what was (looking back on it now) several years of emotional turmoil followed by a couple of moments of extreme stress ("Now that everyone has gathered in the conference room I have an announcement. You may notice that not everyone is here...")

I was on Citalopram Hyrdobromide for about 6 months - a fairly wimpy thing based on what I've read here :-)

The way I look on it is that the defences in the brain to deal with stress had taken a pounding for so long that they'd been weakened enough for things like redundancies (to other people, not me, mind you) to just punch a hole through them.

I think that the tablets helped get rid of the anxiety long enough to give my brain and body a chance to recover. Without the tablets I'd have carried on with anxiety and panic attacks, wouldn't have been able to eat or sleep, maybe even go to work. This would have made the anxiety worse which in turn would have fed back into all the other symptoms. At least the meds gave me some time out from all that.

I finished the medication a couple of weeks ago, and so far things are fine (aside from attacks of lightheadedness, which are getting less).
October 11, 2005 6:58 PM
 

Haacked said:

The anti-med crowd don't realize that there are various forms of depression. Some are purely psychological, but many are a combination of psychological and brain chemistry.

It takes both drugs and counseling (I'm a proponent of behavioral psychology). There are tests that can objectively demonstrate abnormally low levels of Serotonin for example.

The example I like is if your car is running low on oil, you don't sit there and try to WILL the engine not to overheat. You fill up the oil. Likewise, if your brain chemistry is out of wack, you balance it.
October 11, 2005 7:59 PM
 

David said:

!Power to the Rory!

October 11, 2005 8:08 PM
 

Jennifer said:

Rory,

I don't comment here often. I'm not a geek. I just think you're one of the funniest, smartest people I've ever read.

I admire your skepticism and your caution regarding treating your symptoms with brain drugs. It is what will save you.

I don't normally tell people what to do, but this is simple enough. Please read "Reality Therapy" and whatever else you can get your hands on by Dr. William Glasser. It will make sense to you. It WILL.

I have met Dr. Glasser. He knows, he is responsible, and he ought to be followed by every person who desires to help those who suffer from depression, and those who suffer from many other things.

Please -- it's an easy read. It might make all of the difference in the world.

And you're worth it.

October 12, 2005 3:04 AM
 

Rory said:

Derrick -

"This whole thing is kind of a new concept to me. My dad's the 'get it together' type"

So's mine - it wasn't until this last horrible episode that he finally started to seem like he was "getting" what's been going on in my head.

"and my mom's the 'there's nothing that talking to Jesus can't fix'"

Hm. Talking to Jesus can't fix your car.

That's some free ammo from me to you for your next argument :)

(If on the off chance your mom happens to be right about talking to Jesus being able to fix stuff, then I'd appreciate it if you'd get her to reveal her method and then send it to me. I like the idea of talking Jesus into doing my expense reports and painting my apartment (I know - those things aren't really "broken" and so don't need "fixing," but it seems we're playing in la-la land here, so why not just go for broke?).)

"as low and self centered as this is, it's comforting to hear from people who go through things like this as well."

Um. You're talking to a guy who has a blog. If it gets any lower and more self-centered than that, I'd like to know. Being low and self-centered is one of the few things I excel at, and I want to make sure I'm not missing an opportunity here.

Really, though, it's always nice to hear from other people who are going through similar problems - it's especially helpful to find out how they're dealing with them. Meds aren't for everyone, and neither is cognitive behavioral therapy. But, you might not learn about these things unless you come into contact with them by chatting with other people.

There's this horrible stigma associated with depression that tends to keep people from speaking up about it, and that makes it tough. If you ever have any questions or concerns about this stuff, and if you'd rather not take it public (like here), then feel free to email me. Nobody should have to try to figure this stuff out alone.

"Anyway, thank again."

Thanks for commenting :) There are probably fifty other people reading these comments who are in your position but who aren't writing anything because they've been taught to keep quiet about such things. You're helping those people too, yo.
October 12, 2005 4:07 AM
 

Rory said:

James -

"I think that the tablets helped get rid of the anxiety long enough to give my brain and body a chance to recover. Without the tablets I'd have carried on with anxiety and panic attacks, wouldn't have been able to eat or sleep, maybe even go to work. This would have made the anxiety worse"

That's one of the toughest things about anxiety that people who don't get it don't understand.

Sometimes the drugs need to be used to break the cycle of anxiety attacks feeding each other.

It's worked for me in the past. I think I've probably avoided months/years on anti-depressants just by taking benzos for a week straight and then getting on with life.

Good points, mister.
October 12, 2005 4:10 AM
 

Rory said:

Haacked -

"There are tests that can objectively demonstrate abnormally low levels of Serotonin for example."

Really?

What are they? I wan't 'em...
October 12, 2005 4:11 AM
 

Rory said:

Jennifer -

"I don't normally tell people what to do, but this is simple enough. Please read 'Reality Therapy' and whatever else you can get your hands on by Dr. William Glasser. It will make sense to you. It WILL."

I'll take a look when I get back in to Portland.

Thanks for the suggestion... I'm definitely interested in med-free options to explore right now.
October 12, 2005 4:12 AM
 

Derrick said:

One last quick question, I did take Zyban awhile back to help me quit smoking. The active ingredient was bupropion (It was marketed as Wellbutrin in the anti-depressant field) and I'm just curious how it's effects and half-lives compare to some of the newer drugs like Zoloft and things of that nature?

Zyban had a strange effect on me, it was almost more like a "focus in" drug than anything else. It made me anxious and I always had to be doing something (which in turn, gave me a hygenically clean apartment; which was great, but it was almost like I had OCD). I actually felt better during the ramp up than I did when I was 'there.' I started having huge mood swings, which I was able to subdue with cigarettes and alcohol (ironically, the two things I was told not to do while on the pill).

I stopped taking them because I felt like it was encouraging me to smoke more then helping with cravings (it took care of the physical shakes and sweats from not smoking, but the mental 'a cigarette would be nice right now' got unbearable).
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Anyway, I'm just curious how they compare from some of you that may have been on both.
October 12, 2005 2:24 PM
 

Rory said:

Derrick -

Welbutrin actually works on dopamine, whereas other drugs, like Zoloft and Prozac, work on serotonin.

The reason they give you Welbutrin when you quit smoking is that nicotine affects dopamine receptors - the nicotine withdrawal is your body suddenly dealing with what it perceives as less dopamine. Since dopamine is a "feel good" neurotransmitter, this kind of sucks.

So, the experience is actually very different from Zoloft. Welbutrin and similar meds are considered to be "activating" - they get you pepped up.

SSRIs, the class of drugs including Zoloft, are *very* different.

Welbutrin can be great if you have the kind of depression that has you so tired you can't even get out of bed, but a lot of people find it a bit too rough.

The SSRIs, when they work right, tend to "even you out" rather than just boost your mood and wire your head as though you've just stuck your tongue in a light socket.

In other words, the two classes of drugs aren't really comparable. It might be worth it for you to look into Zoloft, Lexapro, or something similar.
October 12, 2005 2:42 PM
 

Derrick said:

Ever thought about going into the med field? The only information my doctor gave me was that "most people still don't quit even with medication" while he wrote out the prescription. Exactly what I wanted to hear after dropping $117 on the medication insurance won't cover and $20 on a less than motivating consultation.

Thanks again for the information.
October 12, 2005 3:45 PM
 

Brett said:

What I've noticed is that there seems to be a small fraction of people out there that always go for the "your fault" explanation for any medical condition. Maybe its because they want to take credit for the genes they worked so hard to acquire, or the fact that they've overcome the mind body dualism issue, and anyone who can't think themselves well is so Descartian.
Fluctuations in brain chemistry shouldn't be taken lightly, especially if the fluctuation leads to some type of fixation- i.e. the system is so out of control its broke. I think this is a "cause" of suicide.

Thanks for having the balls to be honest and yes the silent majority isn't judging but wishing the best. Hopefully your doctor doesn't suggest moving out of the PNW...
October 12, 2005 9:05 PM
 

lipat-bahay said:

yo, not much into the drug thing and shrinks aren't so popular in my land, so that's some info there for me.


i think i also have been in some sort of condition like yours but haven't been to drugs. well, it takes us some cheering up and stuff like that. or i was thinking i slept through it.
October 13, 2005 4:29 AM
 

Tom Cruise said:

Rory!
I do NOT have a small weiner.
I did in fact just finish a few laps in the rather chilly pool prior to filming.
It was Shrinkage!
SHRINKAGE!!!

seriously.
shrinkage.
you'd turtle up too if you had just dunked the junk in 50 degree water.

October 13, 2005 7:35 AM
 

Josh said:

This is a Jesus Promo, its also true.

I have mild panic attacks, 3 infact in the last week. I've been sitting at work considering the next C# "if()" statement, when WHAM! My money/health/training/whatever problems hit me, increased heart rate, sweating, unable to think straight afraid to move, even to breath.

Inside I know whats happening, I can see myself stressing, I know I'm not going to die, but I'm afraid to move, I dont have control.

I've found that repeating a short prayer about giving all my stress and worries to Jesus to handle, helps me back. Repeat, repeat , believe.

It helps me. I pray for you too Rory.
October 13, 2005 11:59 AM
 

Derrick said:

Slightly off topic, but did they give you the boot from http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/ page?
October 13, 2005 12:18 PM
 

Curious said:

Thanx for the reply to my earlier comment. I was mostly curious on the story behind and leading up to the drugs rather than the pros/cons of taking the drugs. I'm sure you've done your research as you always sound extremely educated when you post. My only question is what was life like prior to the drugs? I can only imagine how bad things must have been to turn to a last resort option. Many people turn this way after severe tragic episodes such as a lost relative or best friend. I was wondering if there was a single tragic event or a series of events that landed you on the drugs. Or was it just a lifetime of weird ticks/attacks that you felt you couldn't deal with and wanted to get rid of.
October 13, 2005 2:45 PM
 

Rory said:

Derrick -

"Slightly off topic, but did they give you the boot from http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/ page?"

Possibly :) In my opinion, my blog shouldn't have been there in the first place - it isn't a dev blog.

If it's been removed, though, I haven't received any formal notice. If anything, it happened quietly...
October 13, 2005 4:36 PM
 

Rory said:

My dearest Curious -

"I was wondering if there was a single tragic event or a series of events that landed you on the drugs. Or was it just a lifetime of weird ticks/attacks that you felt you couldn't deal with and wanted to get rid of."

It was a mix of both.

I've always had some weirdness upstairs, but there have clearly been environmental factors that have made a difference.

Like in 2000 - I went on anti-depressants when I realized I couldn't afford to stay in college. I spent about three months in a terrible mental state accompanied by regular anxiety attacks before I finally took a shrink's advice and went on Zoloft.

Saved my butt, too, that stuff...

So, yeah - a bit of both. Brain chemistry combined with life.
October 13, 2005 4:39 PM
 

Derrick said:

Ya, you used to be right on the main page under events.

If it's any consellation, the new guy doesn't seem near as fun. He has a plane and does mobile development. Somehow, I relate better to salami warriors and becoming a level 15 bastard.^^

I guess I'll just have to give in and bookmark the page instead. Keep up the good work!
October 13, 2005 5:07 PM
 

Andrew said:

I take Effexor XR for depression/slight anxiety and it's great! No side effects whatsoever. Unlike Zoloft, this drug is an SNRI (at higher doses) which also blocks norepinephrine and not just seratonin. Of course, nothing can substitute for counseling, but I agree with you, meds can be a part of the solution as a last resort. Works for me in tandem with counseling. Never been better. Hope you feel better Rory, and you're not alone!
October 13, 2005 6:27 PM
 

James Zimmerman said:

Rory,
Best of luck to you getting well.
I attended your talk on (Sept. 22nd?, Lloyd Ctr. Theatre ASP.NET 2) and felt privileged. The room positively crackled with your wit and intelligence.
Such a high level of competence is unusual, to say the least.
You'll be doing us all a favor by overcoming your difficulties. I thank you for your continued effort.
October 13, 2005 9:00 PM
 

Jeremy Brayton said:

I know all about depression but not so much the panic attacks. I can understand them in a "I'm glad I've not went there before" sort of way since suicidal thoughts of any degree aren't any sort of "fun" or "cool".

<quote>What's really funny, though, is that most of the people who have given me a hard time about taking the anti-depressants are people who drink/smoke/use recreational drugs.</quote>
Most people who gave you a hard time were about drugs in particular, not really the anti-depressants. I don't think I belong in this crowd, just simply wondered why out loud. It's good to know your heart is in the right place giving every option a try, as you should. Most would have simply given up so there's some good in that somewhere.

The brain is a weird organ but doesn't seem to need the entirety operating as one to be effective. Part of the liver goes and you're up the creek. Part of the brain goes and you could still function somewhat though that's debatable. We could probably all agree that there are physical issues that can affect the mind as well as psychological/emotional. They are not the same for every person though the same psychological symptoms exist in most people who are affected. That's why some people can just "suck it up" and others need meds or something to just throw the cycle off course for a while giving at least some temporary relief.

What worked for me? I can't rightly say one thing did it.
1. I'm breathing. Every day I wake up, I thank God that I actually did. Have enough dreams where you don't and you realize how easy that is to take for granted.
2. Perception is reality. It seems like a cliche thing to say but it worked for me. Life, despite the crap around us, is glorious. For me to squander or take advantage of any of it seems selfish.
3. To accomplish much it takes small baby steps over time. I'm the type of person that wants perfection NOW, not 5-6 months down the road. Work on something 10 minutes a day for 6 months and you have, some time number of focused proportions or something (too lazy to do the math).
4. Being an adult boils down to one thing: owning responsibility. When you get drunk or high, you are simply delaying responsibility. Children defer responsibility, partly because it's illegal to hit them and partly because it's accepted.
5. This sounds like some damn self-help lawyer type speak and it's all pointing to the same basic principle.
6. Jesus helped but He's not a prerequesite for good mental health. Plus it's more of a teamwork sort of thing. I can't sit here and say "fix it" without moving. He don't use puppets so we have to actually engage the "help".
7. There's a level of healthy selfishness. I'm beyond it now but I teetered on the good side once upon a time. Having "me time" helps a bunch though when you're doing what you love, that can almost count in your head (not really but it depends on how you are).

I won't lie when I say that sometimes it feels dumb to just be happy despite knowing intellectually how screwed up things really are. I can look within or I can look at the world and just be depressed, I just choose not to and it's working. I've let various influences persuade my wellbeing and it gets boring after a while. I can't rightly diagnose the "why" and sometimes there just isn't one. Maybe it was temporary or maybe I'm doing something about it gradually. I don't really care and would gladly continue this attitude despite the reason. I can't say I won't have another episode of self loathing but I can say it won't be near some of the crap fests I've had in the past. And that's a good thing(tm).

Good luck, yo. If anyone's got the cojones to pull through, it's you, mang. If you don't like druggies, you could always have sex. It releases those good brain thingies with no harmful side effects. Well only physical effects but those can be cured through various topical creams.
October 14, 2005 6:43 AM
 

David Totzke said:

"Been driving me nuts, too. Aydika and I just got back from a few days in Cancun, and if you don't drink, you're screwed for evening activities. "

Hmmmm...the observation there suggests an alternative.

Be well...
October 14, 2005 3:37 PM
 

bliz said:

Hey, Roro, it was great to spend some time with you and the lovely Aydika last weekend. We'll have to make it an annual event: we'll each independently make plans to go to a random foreign country and see if we appear in the same place at the same time.

Wish I had some magic words I could say to make all your troubles disappear.
October 14, 2005 10:01 PM
 

Anonymous said:

Debochery is the best cure for depression.

P-Town Hacker
October 14, 2005 10:04 PM
 

zia said:

get better man, try alternatives healing


regards
October 14, 2005 10:04 PM
 

Heidi said:

Hi Rory,

Remember me? Ambler. We went to high school together. Anyway, I found your blog by weirdly coincidental accident a few weeks back, and I've been reading, and I enjoy your posts. Anyway (again), I'm sorry that you're going through crap with depression and meds; I've been there and it's not fun. The main reason I'm writing is to warn you off Paxil. I'm sure you're already aware, but Paxil sucks. I was on Paxil years ago, and when I withdrew I was so sick I thought I was dying. I developed tiny repetitive seizures that felt as if my brain was being electroshocked every time I moved my head. This went on for two months. So stay away from that shit. I actually think Paxil may have been taken off the market, so maybe it's not even an issue. At any rate, my cents, there are two. And yeah, ignore people who get self-righteous about medication. Whatever works for you works for you and they can mind their business.
October 15, 2005 6:01 PM
 

melanie said:

Rory,

If you are curious to know what worked for me... here we go... Neurontin, Ativan and Dalmane to sleep. I know, I know, it sounds like a lot. I take the first two around 4pm, so as not to be at work when they start to kick in and then I take all three at bedtime. Seems to work great for me and has for years. I tried what felt like all of the antidepressants and hated them all. Like you, I'm scared of who I actually would be without the meds, anymore... I just remember who I was without them, way back when and know for sure that I don't want to go back there EVER!

It makes dating tough, because a lot of people just don't understand and I hear a lot of "Jezee, Melanie, why all of these pills!?" In turn I feel like a junkie and can't produce a good answer. Luckily, I'm now with someone who doesn't do that to me and is really supportive. I feel like that's a large part of it too. Having someone accept you for who you are, exactly the way that you are. I think you have that already. If so, don't take that for granted, though, I know it's easy to do.

Anyway, I've taken over your blog (sorry), so I'll stop. Hang in there, find the right combo of meds, or hell, even some alternative to meds that actually works, and everything's going to be okay. It has to, right? What's the alternative? There isn't really one. Again hang in there and be strong.

Best wishes and much love.
October 16, 2005 12:53 PM
 

Anonymous said:

I've been reading some of your old postings and my God, Man, you are pretty darn funny! My sides ache and I ran out of Kleenex! The custard fiasco is hilarious! I'd pay to see this on film. When are your memoires being published? Ann
October 17, 2005 6:12 AM
 

Chocoku said:

Don't take drugs !!!!!!
October 17, 2005 6:39 AM
 

Crazy Eric said:

Rory,
Do you think geeks have unique mental health issues that the world just can't handle yet? We know the truth about how f*ck@d up things really are and what it takes to keep the world running. But we also have the creative solutions - I remember you talking on DNR about a Pocket PC app you wrote for tracking your facial numbness. Hang in there and thanks for the inspiration to help us take charge of ourselves.
October 27, 2005 10:32 PM
 

joy said:

just stumbled on your blog doing searches in google for dopamine and Wellbutrin. A doc recently prescribed it for me to resolve being incredibly tired. Depression? Not really, except for when I have several days in a row that I am even more tired than usual and can barely function. After a while being so tired for no reason can get depressing. Other than that I think I'm typically a positive person.

About 10 years back I had a bout of anxiety I learned a lot about it. Anyone experiencing anxiety should at least take a look at whether they might be having some issues with blood sugar. If it goes too low that can definately trigger anxiety and for good reason. The body has a way of letting you know if you aren't taking care of it by freaking out. With that in mind, to the person who wanted to know, how do you know when it is time to consider meds? My 2 cents are, when you know that you are absolutely taking excellent care of yourself. Getting enough sleep as in 8 uninterupted hours, balanced healthy food and not going too long without eating, which is a typical problem for creative/geeky types who forget to eat cause they can't pull themselves away from what they are doing, taking a good multi vitamin, and at least some sort of regular exercise and taking an honest look at anything that could be causing too much emotional stress. After you've done all that and still can't cope for whatever reason... by all means look into getting some help with meds.

When I had a problem wiith anxiety I didn't know I had a blood sugar problem. Add some emotional stress over some situations in my life and my blood sugar level would just plumit. Of course I didn't know that was happening. Ativan helped me. Completely eliviated the anxiety. So instead of laying on the floor and not being able to get up every morning. I could then function and start working on what else I could do to feel better. I took a serious look at my health and the way I eat and sleep and have not had problems with anxiety since then. Except for a few times when by blood sugar got too low I could feel a slight incling of anxiety but nothing like I had before.

Anyone with any advise regarding low energy and dopamine levels is appreciated.

-joy
January 6, 2006 6:50 PM
 

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